Jason Tieri returns for the second time to represent Threads Podcast: Life Unfiltered. His co-host, Mike Van Drie, is on the show for the first time. (He wasn't on the show yet the first time. (We get into all that. (Do these parentheses seem weird? (It's only weird if you make it weird…)))) We talk about the change in the hosting lineup, learn things about Mike that Jason didn't know, talk about what it's like discussing deeply personal things "publicly", how a podcast develops over time, having to poop while running, coming up with good titles for podcast episodes, and more. Go to http://www.threadspodcast.com and, as per the guys' recommendations, start listening to Threads Podcast: Life Unfiltered with episodes #167 and #171–if you haven't already been listening. .   .   . And please go to http://www.christophertallon.com to find out more about my novel, this podcast, and…other stuff. On all social media platforms: @tallonwrites

Three podcasts are represented on this one: The Reluctant Book Marketer, Author Your Dream, and (duh…) Creative Ops. Jody Sperling, Kenny MacKay, and I let you in on a marketing meeting between podcasters. Jody and Kenny are both in the business of helping authors grow their audience. Now we're trying to grow our own. . . . Jody Sperling, THE RELUCTANT BOOK MARKETER @jodyjsperling on Twitter and Instagram  . . . Kenny MacKay, AUTHOR YOUR DREAM @PodcastAuthor on Twitter; @author_your_dream on Instagram . . . Get my book, follow me on the interweb, and see who's been on the show at http://www.christophertallon.com