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ZERO is a fantastic beat producer in Grand Rapids, MI. His energetic performances are mesmerizing. I liken watching him play his drum machine to watching Stevie Wonder play the piano. Those performances, coupled with award winning music, are a can't-miss. Follow ZERO on his Instagram @zerodgaf to keep up with what's going on and to see some examples of his performing and musical abilities. He's on Twitter and Facebook as well, if you're not into the whole Instagram thing. . . . Thanks for listening. Check out more show stuff, listen to some original music, and take a gander at my time travel novel at http://www.christophertallon.com. Follow me on IG, FB, Twitter, & TT: @tallonwrites . . . Shout outs to Dante Cope, Wuzee, Beatrat, and DJ Phazer.

As a drummer, I was excited to nerd out with my new buddy, Jake Bryan. Jake is the drummer for HEARTSICK, the Lansing-based band that's been playing loud music for 20 years. I started following this band even before Jake joined. As you'll find out, he joined the band around the same time I left the Lansing area for good. Jake came from a musical family, where his passion for drumming was highly encouraged from a young age. In his teens, he found his passion as a traveling performer with the school band when they performed in Florida and New York City. Before joining Heartsick, he played drums in a Final Fantasy themed metal band–something I wasn't aware was a thing. Follow all the fun stuff:  Jake's IG @bryantalmadge Heartsick  Official Website Instagram Facebook YouTube Spotify Apple Creative Ops Podcast Website (shows, descriptions, links) Apple Spotify (Host) Christopher Tallon's Website  Buy Us a Coffee! Friends of Creative Ops IRIE Kitchen River Town Adventures Baby Farm Soaps Hey Guys Media

Alfonso Civile of the Lansing-based metal band Heartsick joined me for a discussion via the magic of the internet. A few of the things we talked about: the 20 year history of the band (formerly Know Lyfe), how they're adapting during the stay-at-home order, what they have planned for the future,  the band's creative process, and more! Alfonso is super creative, and just a really nice guy. I hope to have him back sometime; I could've talked to him way longer. Hope you enjoy our chat as much as I did.  Find out what else he and the band are up to, how to watch/listen/support them in these odd times: Facebook @heartsickband Twitter @heartsickband Instagram @heartsickband Heartsick Official YouTube Still reading? Really? OK. Well…if you like Creative Ops, one way to let me know: rate the show. Or leave a review.  Or subscribe. Or do any combo. If you do all 3, I'll be your best friend for a whole day (weekends and holidays excluded). Check out my website, www.christophertallon.com, for show updates, blogs, and random fun! Follow and connect with me, Christopher Tallon, on social media. I'm on Instagram, FaceBook, and Twitter. Still reading? Why? Go listen.  -CT